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« on: July 25, 2009, 09:19:33 AM »

Ad Place is now part of the BobHoil.com network. I am still working on getting a domain name for the site though. So hopefully that is done soon. But right now I have a delima! I need your help to help me decide whether I should add a community to Ad Place. Do you think it would be a good idea?

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2009, 12:03:49 PM »

The theme is rather different,
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2009, 01:09:19 PM »

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? Because I can always change that! lol Duh

Also I fixed some of the links on the publishers page! I had a few things messed up!
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2009, 01:15:41 PM »

well when i scroll down it is white, and when it loads it is like a fade, other than that i like it
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2009, 01:18:28 PM »

Oh wait thanks for mentioning that! You just found a bug lol. I have the background image adjust to the window size. I need to give it a default size or something I guess.

Also I updated the site a little more afro
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2009, 05:10:05 PM »

I would suggest making or buying a template that is more.. user friendly, yours looks like it is for some horror novel website.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2009, 01:29:43 AM »

Ok I will remake it. I will make brighter colors. So it looks better Duh

Thanks for all the great suggestions! I am working on getting it to look better as we speak!


EDIT: New version is up! I created this with  some help and suggestions from a few friends! Tell me what you think
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2009, 06:43:09 PM »

I really like the new template, it is very elegant and simplistic. My only suggestion now is to make your header links stand out more, and to 'stretch' your footer to the bottom of your page.

To do that add something like this to your CSS sheet;

#FOOTER {BOTTOM:0PX}
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2009, 06:59:14 PM »

Thanks for the suggestions! I took them into account and have updated my site! I think it is getting better by the minute! smiley

Also I couldn't get the bottom thing to work. I will try out some more things later.
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2009, 07:10:09 PM »

I would suggest formatting your stylesheet, it is currently improper (div#id), messy and looks unprofessional.
As mentioned above, when you are assigning a class you DO NOT need to have a preleading DIV tag.

Code: (/style/style.css)
body {
margin:0px;
background-color:#d9d6c0;
font:normal 13px;
line-height:20px;
color:#000000;
}
a.discreet {
color:#666;
text-decoration:none;
}
a.discreet:hover {
text-decoration:underline;
color:#333;
}
a {
color:#409f00;
}
span.highlight {
background-color:#ff4;
}
#navbar {
background-color:#505050;
text-align:center;
color:#ccc;
font-size:16px;
padding:10px;
padding:1px 12px 2px 12px;
}
#navbar a:hover {
background-color:#4d4d4d;
color:#cfcfcf;
}
#intro {
margin:50px auto 40px auto;
width:540px;
}
#intro img#logo {
width:287px;
height:101px;
}
#middle {
background-color:#eee;
border-top:solid 1px #ddd;
border-bottom:solid 1px #ddd;
padding:30px 0px 30px 0px;
}
#middle h2 {
font-weight:normal;
width:515px;
padding:0px 2px 0px 28px;
margin:0px auto 10px auto;
font-size:25px;
color:#aaa;
letter-spacing:-1px;
}
#middle ul#work {
width:515px;
padding:0px 0px 0px 30px;
margin:0px auto 0px auto;
list-style-type:none;
}
#middle ul#work li {
display:inline;
}
#middle ul#work li img {
width:125px;
height:125px;
border:solid 4px #d7d7d7;
margin:15px 15px 0px 0px;
}
#tail {
margin:30px auto 30px auto;
width:540px;
}

#footer {
background-color:#505050;
text-align:center;
color:#cfcfcf;
font-size:14px;
padding-top:10px;
}




Your index page is pretty messy too, I would suggest formatting your code better.

Code: (BEFORE)
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/style.css">
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/>
    <title>Ad Place</title>
<div id="navbar">
<a href="index.php">Home</a>
<a href="page2.php">Publishers</a>
<a href="page3.php">Advertisers</a>

<a href="page4.php">About Us</a>
</div>
    </head>
    <body>
        <div id="intro">
            <img src="style/images/header.png" id="logo" alt="Ad Place"/><br/>
<h2>Welcome!</h2>
            <p>
Welcome to Ad Place! We provide free information on what ad providers there are and what they will do for you! We hope this information will help you make the best of your site and make some money!
            </p>
            <p>
Please feel free to browse the site and check out all our different areas of the site. We hope the information provided is helpful!You can view my contact information below!
            </p>
<h2>Contact</h2>

<p>
Email: greg.froning@bobhoil.com
</p>
        </div> 
        <div id="middle">
            <h2>Affiliates</h2>
            <ul id="work">
    <li><a href="http://bobhoil.com/"><img src="style/images/bobhoil.png" id="logo" alt="BobHoil.com!"/></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7042524"><img src="http://bobhoil.com/donatebuts/donate.png"/ alt="Donate"></a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.110mb.com/aff.php?un=bobhoil"><img src="style/images/110.png" id="logo" alt="110mb.com Free Hosting!"/></a></li>
            </ul>           
        </div>       
       
        <div id="tail">
<!-- Beginning of Project Wonderful ad code: -->

<!-- Ad box ID: 38039 -->
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
var pw_d=document;
pw_d.projectwonderful_adbox_id = "38039";
pw_d.projectwonderful_adbox_type = "6";
pw_d.projectwonderful_foreground_color = "";
pw_d.projectwonderful_background_color = "";
//-->
</script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.projectwonderful.com/ad_display.js"></script>
<noscript><map name="admap38039" id="admap38039"><area href="http://www.projectwonderful.com/out_nojs.php?r=0&amp;c=0&amp;id=38039&amp;type=6" shape="rect" coords="0,0,234,60" title="" alt="" target="_blank" /></map>
<table cellpadding="0" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="234" bgcolor="#ffffff"><tr><td><img src="http://www.projectwonderful.com/nojs.php?id=38039&amp;type=6" width="234" height="60" usemap="#admap38039" border="0" alt="" /></td></tr><tr><td bgcolor="#ffffff" colspan="1"><center><a style="font-size:10px;color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;line-height:1.2;font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma, verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-transform: none;letter-spacing:normal;text-shadow:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:normal;" href="http://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=38039&amp;type=6" target="_blank">Ads by Project Wonderful!  Your ad here, right now: $0</a></center></td></tr><tr><td colspan=1 valign="top" width=234 bgcolor="#000000" style="height:3px;font-size:1px;padding:0px;max-height:3px;"></td></tr></table>
</noscript>
<!-- End of Project Wonderful ad code. -->
        </div>
        <div id="footer">
            Copyright &copy; 2008-2009 &nbsp;Ad Place &nbsp; Site Created By: <a href="http://bobhoil.com/">BobHoil.com!</a>

        </div>
    </body>
</html>
Code: (AFTER)
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="style/style.css">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"/>
<title>Ad Place</title>
<div id="navbar"><a href="index.php">Home</a><a href="page2.php">Publishers</a><a href="page3.php">Advertisers</a><a href="page4.php">About Us</a></div>
</head>
<body>
<div id="intro"> <img src="style/images/header.png" id="logo" alt="Ad Place"/><br/>
  <h2>Welcome!</h2>
  <p> Welcome to Ad Place! We provide free information on what ad providers there are and what they will do for you! We hope this information will help you make the best of your site and make some money! </p>
  <p> Please feel free to browse the site and check out all our different areas of the site. We hope the information provided is helpful!You can view my contact information below! </p>
  <h2>Contact</h2>
  <p> Email: greg.froning@bobhoil.com </p>
</div>
<div id="middle">
  <h2>Affiliates</h2>
  <ul id="work">
    <li><a href="http://bobhoil.com/"><img src="style/images/bobhoil.png" id="logo" alt="BobHoil.com!"/></a></li>
    <li><a href="https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=7042524"><img src="http://bobhoil.com/donatebuts/donate.png"/ alt="Donate"></a></li>
    <li><a href="http://www.110mb.com/aff.php?un=bobhoil"><img src="style/images/110.png" id="logo" alt="110mb.com Free Hosting!"/></a></li>
  </ul>
</div>
<div id="tail">
  <!-- Beginning of Project Wonderful ad code: -->
  <!-- Ad box ID: 38039 -->
  <script type="text/javascript">
<!--
var pw_d=document;
pw_d.projectwonderful_adbox_id = "38039";
pw_d.projectwonderful_adbox_type = "6";
pw_d.projectwonderful_foreground_color = "";
pw_d.projectwonderful_background_color = "";
//-->
</script>
  <script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.projectwonderful.com/ad_display.js"></script>
  <noscript>
  <map name="admap38039" id="admap38039">
    <area href="http://www.projectwonderful.com/out_nojs.php?r=0&amp;c=0&amp;id=38039&amp;type=6" shape="rect" coords="0,0,234,60" title="" alt="" target="_blank" />
  </map>
  <table cellpadding="0" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="234" bgcolor="#ffffff">
    <tr>
      <td><img src="http://www.projectwonderful.com/nojs.php?id=38039&amp;type=6" width="234" height="60" usemap="#admap38039" border="0" alt="" /></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td bgcolor="#ffffff" colspan="1"><center>
          <a style="font-size:10px;color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;line-height:1.2;font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma, verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-transform: none;letter-spacing:normal;text-shadow:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:normal;" href="http://www.projectwonderful.com/advertisehere.php?id=38039&amp;type=6" target="_blank">Ads by Project Wonderful!  Your ad here, right now: $0</a>
        </center></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td colspan=1 valign="top" width=234 bgcolor="#000000" style="height:3px;font-size:1px;padding:0px;max-height:3px;"></td>
    </tr>
  </table>
  </noscript>
  <!-- End of Project Wonderful ad code. -->
</div>
<div id="footer"> Copyright &copy; 2008-2009 &nbsp;Ad Place &nbsp; Site Created By: <a href="http://bobhoil.com/">BobHoil.com!</a> </div>
</body>
</html>

You have numerous errors throughout your website (example below) but formatting is key.




About these errors, they render your webpage blank in lots of browsers (including IE -7)

You CANNOT place direct links, divs or anything not background information in your header.
Code: (YOUR HEADER)
<div id="navbar"><a href="index.php">Home</a><a href="page2.php">Publishers</a><a href="page3.php">Advertisers</a><a href="page4.php">About Us</a></div>

Header does not mean the top of your page, it means data that is loaded, all your content needs to be placed in-between <body> tags.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2009, 02:24:18 AM »

Ok I updated the site some more! I plan on checking it and making it html valid over the next few days. I will also check the style sheet. I have formatted all the pages and the css! I fixed that error you mentioned also. Hopefully I can get it working to its full potential soon enough!


EDIT: Forgot to say! Thanks for all the help I really appreciate it!

EDIT 2: I have updated the site and there is now a rating system for the different providers! I am thinking about making them hidden until you decide to rate and you can click a link that will then show them.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2009, 05:50:07 AM »

I have been trying to figure out over the past few days one how to make this site better. I was wondering if anyone had  any ideas for making it more interactive for the users! I already implemented voting which looks like a few have used it! So I hope I can add more things like that into the site to make it user friendly and still helpful.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2009, 10:30:17 AM »

My one last suggestion is to add spacers between your header links.

<a href="#">Home</a> &nbsp; <a href="#">Home</a> &nbsp; <a href="#">Home</a> &nbsp; <a href="#">Home</a>
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2009, 01:55:48 PM »

I already have spaces on my menu in the header. Should I just add more?
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2009, 02:25:38 PM »

I would suggest this sort of form.

<a></a> &nbsp; &nbsp; <a></a>

(Two seperated by spaces)>
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 02:29:17 PM »

Ok I will work on getting that in the site! Thanks for all the great help KellyAX! I really appreciate it!
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2009, 08:58:35 PM »

Using your stylesheet and your general idea I created a mockup of your website; http://bob.kellyax.com/
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2009, 02:12:54 AM »

Is that how you think I should set it up? Or were you just doing that? lol grin
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2009, 03:20:58 AM »

I was just bored, needed something to do.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2009, 03:37:18 AM »

Oh ok lol... just thought I would ask! grin

I have been trying to figure out if I should ad more of a community area to the site. Maybe a forum or something! If you think it would be a good idea are there any forums that I can implement directly into my pages? So I don't have to create a separate area?
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