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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2009, 10:15:24 PM »

Look at it this way: Do you own a webhosting company? Nope Do you have experiance of the business world? Nope
Do andre/110mb staff have both of the above? Yes
Maybe the changes are a little drastic, but remember the above and what I said in my first post.

You seem to know a lot of things about me. Weird, I can't remember writing a resume anywhere.

Anyway, read what Piotr said (is he an amature as well?!). 110mb made some mistakes now, we just try to advise them about it.
If you won't listen to your costumers, then to whom you will?!
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2009, 10:19:14 PM »

Look at it this way: Do you own a webhosting company? Nope Do you have experiance of the business world? Nope
Do andre/110mb staff have both of the above? Yes
Maybe the changes are a little drastic, but remember the above and what I said in my first post.

You seem to know a lot of things about me. Weird, I can't remember writing a resume anywhere.

Anyway, read what Piotr said (is he an amature as well?!). 110mb made some mistakes now, we just try to advise them about it.
If you won't listen to your costumers, then to whom you will?!
They listen to the:
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2009, 10:20:57 PM »

if we club our cash together and donate $1 million will andre change his mind?
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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2009, 10:22:54 PM »

Look at it this way: Do you own a webhosting company? Nope Do you have experiance of the business world? Nope
Do andre/110mb staff have both of the above? Yes
Maybe the changes are a little drastic, but remember the above and what I said in my first post.

You seem to know a lot of things about me. Weird, I can't remember writing a resume anywhere.

Anyway, read what Piotr said (is he an amature as well?!). 110mb made some mistakes now, we just try to advise them about it.
If you won't listen to your costumers, then to whom you will?!
They listen to the:
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Spelndid. you can't connect costumers to money, huh.

I think those changes are drastic and illogic, it's up to the admins to heed me or not.
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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2009, 10:38:53 PM »

I agree: From a paid-host business point of view it is understandable; and although I will continue to stay here with my current account, I will be moving to a new free host in the future. undecided I'd like to say thanks to 110mb for the great experience I have had here in the past. smiley

A would like to pose a little question to you though - Why did you drop the amount of space and bandwidth by such a drastic amount? Surely if what you said above was true, then dropping it only slightly - or even halving it would be enough.
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2009, 11:29:23 PM »

I understand that because of the economic crisis 110mb wants to cover themselves, and 110mb space is not bad, I use 10.8 MB and the highest I ever got was around ~15 MB
A serious user should not need more than 50MB, so 110mb is still well above what we need.
10GB bandwidth: if you can upgrade it to a TB, that is a lot, so it's not very bad
FTP OFF - I can understand that abusers abuse it a lot, but it does seem a bit.. gay Duh Of course, I am talking from Box 5 point of view, so My opinions may be slightly imbalanced Wink
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Huge amounts of funds to run 110MB infrastructure. (Impossible to go bankrupt)
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2009, 11:46:59 PM »

I agree with the majority of you saying that these measures are drastic.  This will surely deter potential customers from signing up.  However, 110mb are right in their own way.  I've seen many persons recommending 110mb as there favorite host for hosting spam/illegal/rss scraping content.  But doubt that the ftp off feature will be accepted by future users.

At least, you could enable it and set a lower quota for it.
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2009, 11:51:53 PM »

I agree with the majority of you saying that these measures are drastic.  This will surely deter potential customers from signing up.  However, 110mb are right in their own way.  I've seen many persons recommending 110mb as there favorite host for hosting spam/illegal/rss scraping content.  But doubt that the ftp off feature will be accepted by future users.

At least, you could enable it and set a lower quota for it.
lower? it is alreayd at one (1) so any lower and it would be off. like now Duh
But this is true, although I can see that this may spare 110mb a lot of costs, it may also bring a loop, wherein lots of users may not register, 110mb gets less funds, 110mb cuts features, less users register, less funds, etc..)
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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2009, 01:09:01 AM »

Forgive me for asking what could be considered a "bad" question but I feel it needs to be asked.  I understand that economic times are hard and 110mb is losing money so what I think we need to worry about is not how they cut the features down but what will happen to 110mb.  The question I am trying to get at here is:  Is this a situation where 110mb is running out of money and is going to end up having to shut down?  Also, did 110mb ever consider paid hosting as well as free hosting?  Even something simple like $5 a month or $50 a year would be a good source of income.  I imagine that there are a lot of people out there who pay for web hosting whose web servers are slower than 110mb's.  Andre and company has shown that they know how to keep the servers running fast, why not have a paid hosting option that is like a yearly charge or something like that?

Just my 2 cents.

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« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2009, 01:24:14 AM »

Forgive me for asking what could be considered a "bad" question but I feel it needs to be asked.  I understand that economic times are hard and 110mb is losing money so what I think we need to worry about is not how they cut the features down but what will happen to 110mb.  The question I am trying to get at here is:  Is this a situation where 110mb is running out of money and is going to end up having to shut down?  Also, did 110mb ever consider paid hosting as well as free hosting?  Even something simple like $5 a month or $50 a year would be a good source of income.  I imagine that there are a lot of people out there who pay for web hosting whose web servers are slower than 110mb's.  Andre and company has shown that they know how to keep the servers running fast, why not have a paid hosting option that is like a yearly charge or something like that?

Just my 2 cents.

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You're absolutely right. They should do it, and I don't want them to go bankrupt, but if it happens I'd want my money back.

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110MB is run by 2 companies coming from entirely different fields.

One (eLabs) is based on server administration for other companies or services, hosting, and C#/PHP/MySQL programming.

The other (Speed Success, Inc.) is based on distributing and creating thousands of products a year via mail order and internet marketing, self-help & eBay coaching and worldwide dropshipping.

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Huge amounts of funds to run 110MB infrastructure. (Impossible to go bankrupt)

So if they DO go bankrupt, it can be a huge reason for a lot of sueing, which we all don't want.
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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2009, 04:54:12 AM »

this really sux. i just told someone last night to come here and move their site to here and i sent them the link to the upgrade plans page. now when they see it they will think i lied. holy crap this is like deja vu and a nightmare in one!
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« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2009, 05:50:07 AM »

I'm quite disappointed. Seriously now, NO FTP? Before we had 1 connection per IP, and 50 users at a time. I considered that quite low already, and now it's gone completely? And 10GB of bandwidth, down from 300GB? It could have at least been 25GB. I'm not as concerned about the disk space, since I've never used more than 10MB, but going back to 110MB from 5GB? Not cool.

And normally, I would gladly pay for this (if I could). But you've raised all the prices to $7 or $9! Even in this economic downtime, paying $40 to run WordPress on a host marketing itself as FREE is absurd.

I'm sorry, but I can't recommend you guys anymore. Re-enable FTP and increase the bandwidth to at least 25GB, and I'll be good.

And to Andre's argument about abusers' bandwidth: Can't you just have staff alerted when someone goes over 10GB and see what they're doing? Because they might just be getting Dugg.
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2009, 06:39:12 AM »

I wouldn't be disappointed. You shouldn't be. I'm sick of all the abusers coming along [beep] things up for us users who want to have a good site.
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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2009, 06:54:05 AM »

You should see all angles of this issue, not only what concerns to you. The idea is, 110mb will loose its huge amount of joining members. Seriously, me and many more, when we saw those BIG 5gb and that HUGE 300gb bandwidth, that's what made us come..

Now, since it's only one time fee, and not monthly, the only way for 110mb to keep profit and maintain itself is to encourage people to join (and to pay for upgrades). Seriously, if people reached this site it's because they want a FREE host, not for every minor thing (such as ftp) to be paid for.

Consider this factor as well: A certain percentage of the users who want websites are just kids/teenagers who don't really have money or the first clue how to pay (all those credit cards, paypall, such a headache). So instead of encouraging them to join, and maybe then they'll put their effort to pay ("MOM, DAD, I NEED MONEY"), you just reject them at the beginning.

Imagine a year from now 110mb state they need to close the service because no more people join...
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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2009, 06:57:55 AM »

These changes are for the best of 110mb! Ah, boo hoo, you can't be cheap and get things for free anymore, SO CRY ABOUT IT.

It's funny how you all loved 110mb, but the minute the cash cow can no longer be milked, you give up and say how terrible they are. Shame on every one of you who thinks this is unfair! You seem to forget that YOU still have your old accounts that have all the things we were given before. This will teach people to be more resourceful with their space and bandwidth.

I see no reason to give 5 gig anyway, the rules say you are not to use 110mb as a file host, so why would you need all that space?

Same goes with bandwidth, if you are eating up that much bandwidth, you need to go paid.

So stop boo hooing in your beer, and just be thankful they did not make ALL accounts like this.
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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2009, 07:02:27 AM »

Sorry, now you're just being irrational and mad. Listening to no reason.

No point to maintain this debate.
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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2009, 07:12:48 AM »

SHUT UP EVERYONE! These changes are for the best of 110mb! Ah, boo hoo, you can't be cheap and get things for free anymore, SO CRY ABOUT IT.
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So stop boo hooing in your beer, and just be thankful they did not make ALL accounts like this.
I'm sorry to be the one to say it, but people should be allowed to express their opinions (freedom of speech).
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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2009, 07:14:40 AM »

Freedom of speech doesn't apply to every site on the internet. I bet some moderator (*cough*) will come along and edit some of these posts to keep people from arguing.

The fact is that anyone who is generally getting upset by this is being ungrateful.
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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2009, 07:16:37 AM »

I understand the changes completely with the space, the only thing I am not 100% keen on is disabling of ftp I only use ftp clients and while your other changes wouldn't not have discouraged me from 110 at the start the lack of an ftp connection would of, and like a few other people here I'm afraid I won;'t be able to recommend 110mb anymore
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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2009, 07:19:12 AM »

Yes, I do somewhat agree that taking away FTP is rather odd, but you never know, things could work out.
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