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[Primefalcon]

Well I'm afraid that to all the new people asking about free hosting I'll probably refer them to to freehostia instead, it offers a lot better features....

what 110mb should of really done was offer paid accounts.... Some people who get serious traffic instead of going somewhere else would pay to stay here I remember quite a few people who wanted to stay here but couldn't when their sites got big and were willing to pay but....

[iansvivarium]

so long as 110mb don't force ads, and keep my ftp then I'm good

If a free host has forced ads, then i skip it and look at what the next has to offer, no matter what features they offer

[Primefalcon]

110mb isn't the only one not to have ads you know :-P

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

Well I'm afraid that to all the new people asking about free hosting I'll probably refer them to to freehostia instead, it offers a lot better features....

i never had a good experience with FH i like X10 better as a second choice and with far more options

If its a hosting issue with the new canadian company, I will go there and get the backup tapes in person and upload everything to a new machine, if needs be (authorized of course, unless they require "persuasion")

their in Quebec some were lolz...

[iansvivarium]

110mb isn't the only one not to have ads you know :-P

yeh, but look at how much space and bandwidth we got!

[Primefalcon]

heck x10 even offer asp.net or is that spacesocket, I forget, point is there are a lot of them out there

[Piotr GRD]

That's why decreasing features is a bad idea.

In the 2006/2007 110mb was provide a course where the free host can go and what can offer. Obviously other free hosts to stay on the market had to follow it up. At the moment the competition is good, have similar (to the b4-16) offer. And if 110mb is going so far away back with the offer of free features - this is obviously "suicide" on the todays free host market and going down on the list "top recommended" free hosts.

What would be good business step - as mentioned above already - to offer still a good free host and have a separate servers for monthly paid accounts. Yes - it's nothing new, there are other hosts that works like this, too, but it's good business strategy, cheap paid hosts are quite popular and have alot of customers. 5$ a month will give much more funds than one time 40$ upgrades. With having good popular free host you are collecting future potential customers and instead of send them away for paid host when they grow - move them to your second server dedicated for paid users.

[paulwratt]

edit: the irony of this situation, whats the thread under this one (atm: ADDED increased disk space and bandwidth)

obviously something needs to be done, but I dont think "regression" or "shooting one self inthe foot" are the way to go

there is (or has been) a need for "paid hosting", and the longer a site stays with 110mb, and gains in viewers, the more likely they are to want to "pay to stay"

when you pay "full service" you get to be part of 110gb.com, we at 110mb.com, and them new at 110bytes.com

there has to be a way to do this without doing "open heart surgery" on a "pimple" of a problem

I seem to remember that registration was off a lot of the time in the past, that never hurt 110mb rep, and they still get hundreds signing up, maybe they need someone dedicated to "no we can't afford a new server yet, our profits aren't up enough" type control, seems like someone got a bit "over-zealous" with the "we are the biggest and best free hosting, oops now were 110mb without ftp services", next thing you know they'll be wanting to charge for PHP, or "god forbid" apache services

nah man, andre, get yo ass on the keyboard and throw some input in here, the easy route here "looks bad from the outset", and I prefer not to have an "us" and "them" on our network, and you realize you cant afford to have a fiasco with this box17 if you have "serious" paying customers (not just upgrading customers), and there is more need for "instant response" too, all of which adds up to affect you reputation in a more dynamic way, no matter how good your rep "was" (110mb.com) we all know it only takes 2 seconds on this inter-web thingy to that rep to become burned to ashes, and I'll be damned if I'm going to put up with other people pointing and say "haha, your with 110mb.com, 110mb I got more space than that on my phone, and I can FTP that to your father, WHILE I'm chating up your mother"

bah, that said, I have noticed a majority of long time users are not in favor of this (as outlined in the first post) and they are the one NOT to be affected, if I didn't know any better, I'd swear I could smell a "coupe" in the air..

lateral thinking is whats needed here, and maybe some "sliming" down to boot, but you gotta add more stuff than you take away, otherwise your "cutting off too much fat" and all you have left is "bone"

I say get that ASP thing up, and ruby, and a few other things been on the list for a while, slim down the specs, add bandwidth limiters to ftp, AND offer a "full payed" hosting service (monthly or something for high bandwidth users, so you can afford more support staff)

..hmm..

Paul
(I might need to go to sleep just now )

[Primefalcon]

yeah give us some input man let us know your reading this...... seriously why not offer paid accounts there is a need for it and that way you can capitalize on your free hosting by turning people paid.

you have a great community here, that's a rare thing, a lot of those other communities I mentioned have 0 forum activity or they're dopes in there (no insult meant to the other mobs).

But 110mb, you have an opportunity here to expand your business, don't be so quick to kill it off....

[Robbi]

What would be good business step - as mentioned above already - to offer still a good free host and have a separate servers for monthly paid accounts. Yes - it's nothing new, there are other hosts that works like this, too, but it's good business strategy, cheap paid hosts are quite popular and have alot of customers. 5$ a month will give much more funds than one time 40$ upgrades. With having good popular free host you are collecting future potential customers and instead of send them away for paid host when they grow - move them to your second server dedicated for paid users.

I COMPLETELY AGREE!!!

here's a thought... what about all those banners and stuff that people use in the redirecting thing... they all say 5gb space and 300gb band they might need updated. lol

but yeah how about that? lower the band width amount lol most will never need 300gb and offer a paid server for those that do! and a data limit for ftp. lots of things like that could definitely serve as well as if not better than the current situation...

[Primefalcon]

oh poop...

look at the forum statitics

2359 Guests, 152 Users

at this time thats huge.... you have a lot of traffic you probably have a poopload of sites.... don't gop backwards, utilise what you have and offer paid accounts I started free myself and went over to paid hosting from another company... if only 110mb had an option for me but oh well I had to go elsewhere and pay money elsewhere...

don't go backwards because your getting too much success utilize it, you got thise traffic from being a great free host, leverage that and become a great paid host as well...

[EpicCyndaquil]

here are users active on a what seems to be great free hosting site's forum

104 members and 903 guests

note: that's within the last 24 hours.

[M0ZZA]

This new policy could help a paid service though, if there is less for free, you will (providing you can afford it) pay for a paid account. However, this could do the opposite, as it has been raised many times before : We came to 110mb because it was almost identical to paid hosting, and we couldnt afford paid hosting.

I like the idea of making a subsidary, could be like 110mbpremium.com or something 

[Elight]

So to sum it up,

We want 110mb to remain in top free hosts. Give more disk space and bandiwdth and free FTP to free users (like suggested, 1gb space, 50gb bandwidth). Keep those one-time-fee upgrades, and make a new SUPER server for monthly fee.

That way users can choose from just a regular free account with upgrades, or a mega package for a monthly fee server.

You achieve by it: Thousands of people who join the service and may upgrade it, and you won't go low on cash because obviously people would also join the premium server. And, you're still the Top Free Host there is!

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

hmmm ok i think enough bashing of 110 is needed but solutions are required and immediate action too on Andres side...

My suggestion:
Space: 110MB Forum Posting:5GB Paid: 5GB/$5 10GB/$9.95 and so on like seriously Andre who would be "stupid" enough to pay 10 bucks for 5GB? even if its one time fee... EVERY ONE IS GIVING 5GB!!! (or about)
Bandwidth: 10GB Allowance Past: Up to 40GB more (automatically done if getting close to 10GB) Posting: 100-500GB Paid: 100GB/$3 250/$5 and so on and you kinda off on the 150 bucks part...
FTP: disabled enabled upon request AKA KEEP FREE!!!

Paid Hosting:
Starting price: .99 << TRUE! (5GB HDD 10GB Bandwidth)
Upgrades:
MySQL, CGI/Perl/Python/Sendmail (Full) /Htaccess Price:$1.99
Band width: 50GB $0.5, 100GB $0.75, 300GB $1, 500GB $1.25, 1TB $1.5 Overage cost: $.05 per GB
Fsockopen: $0.50
Click Backup: $0.99 (per use)
HDD: 10GB $0.5 25GB $.75 50GB $1 100GB $1.5 More Upon Request: $0.75 per 50GB

so the lowest amount is .99 but the most you could get a month is $6.48 very close to the 5 dollars a month but then you do a bundle for 5 dollars a month with all included (not including the one click back up and bandwidth overage)

hell... 11.88 from one user is far better then 0 people

lateral thinking is whats needed here, and maybe some "sliming" down to boot, but you gotta add more stuff than you take away, otherwise your "cutting off too much fat" and all you have left is "bone"

lolz you got that all wrong what they are doing is not removing the fat... no no no removing the fat is good... as think of a human who has say 50% body fat what would you want gone? the fat right so getting rid of fat is good... what Andre is doing is getting rid of the support AKA the Bone and by removing the bone the fat has no support and ultimately will fall to its doom

[Primefalcon]

the fat, meat and bones


don't forget the meat :-O

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

the fat, meat and bones


don't forget the meat :-O

hmmm na the fat is staying when the bones gone the meat starts going...

110 body:
Bones: all options available
Meat:the people
Fat: Unwanted poop including people

once options start going (FTP as a fine example) the meat starts going even tho that does not truly happen often in a human body thats what happening to 110s body

and bah i typed something about 110s ads and it some how managed to disapear in my clipboards but basically i was going to say this:

NO ADVERTISER IS WILLING TO PAY A COMPANY WITH NO NEW CLIENTS!!! people go based on front pages and look for features they really need so say some one only needs CP with all current basic options (not needing FTP) but when that person needs FTP and tries and looks "WTF 10 BUCKS FOR FTP!!! WOW STUPID NOOBS" and leaves... who knows how long that might be it might be 1 year it might be 1 minute... the point is with out FTP your pushing people away... esp if they have to pay it... >.< free hosts i know of need you to request some things to get it working not pay for it... X10 has 3 lvls of PHP i needed to request a upgrade... for how much? 30 seconds of my time. Price? What price? only price that cos me was the 30 seconds...

[octagram]

EVERY ONE IS GIVING 5GB!!! (or about)

Do you REALLY need that much?

I don't know what's the reason, why aren't you demanding MySQL? What are your intentions? Why do you need filespace as opposed to database?

I strongly believe that limited free MySQL service will be a good replacement for FTP.

[general vegitable]

I don't know what's the reason, why aren't you demanding MySQL? What are your intentions? Why do you need filespace as opposed to database?

he doesnt need it, if he did he would pay the small fee to get it.

I strongly believe that limited free MySQL service will be a good replacement for FTP.

but mysql is more abusable than ftp

[inuyasha10]

I don't know what's the reason, why aren't you demanding MySQL? What are your intentions? Why do you need filespace as opposed to database?

he doesnt need it, if he did he would pay the small fee to get it.

I strongly believe that limited free MySQL service will be a good replacement for FTP.

but mysql is more abusable than ftp

actually i do need it i just dont need it right now... and about the space... i can easily go threw 100MB in web stuff including pics but mostly files (i back up all files before changing anything)

also people are stupid (sorry its true) if they see something big for free they will goto that first besides 5GB is a number 110 does not really set aside 5GB per account if they did they would of gone under ages ago as fitting hundreds of accounts on 1 box with 5GB ea set aside is a huge cost.

I can get MySQL for free from them on mels account any time i want so i dont need to pay for it but im happy using off host MySQL right now and as GV said SQL is more abused then FTP (hence why servers giving MySQL including X10 are slow)

Oh i do use MySQL a few people who are working with me on my new site know about it plus one other site uses MySQL as well but both are hosted (the MySQL) else were.

Reason for me being on this account: on my laptop trying to get a CTCP script working on my desktop

EDIT: Which is not working >.<