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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2008, 04:26:39 PM »

with that kind of downside this year though, that money isn't going to last long
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2008, 07:37:41 PM »

Microsoft is overall gaining value, you guys are just looking at today's or recent value changes. Aldo has the stocks as an applet on his desktop's sidebar. His always informing us of the changes over at MS Chat.
Yes I am.

And yes, you cannot look at 1 day. You need to look at overall. You need to investigate why. Why don't you guys go estimate the end days of Yahoo! their stock values keep dropping as Yahoo! keeps being a total jackass and declining Microsoft's offer, Microsoft's stocks stay the same, as Yahoo!'s go down and down. In fact, look: YHOO stocks are under $20. While MSFT is not in a gain right now, they aren't failing at all like Yahoo!, Yahoo!'s independent days are over, and nothing will stop them from being bought out, maybe not by Microsoft, but by someone else.
Its seems like you only want to see the value drop in Yahoo!, have you seen the same is happening on Microsoft share about 67 billion dollars since or $9.89 per share since Q1 Yahoo!´s shareholders has only lost $3.42 per share in the same time. And Yahoos decline are just part of Ms failed takeover bid, but you are right on Yahoo!´s independent days are over there shareholders will sell if they can get a good premium like I did  grin Newcorp or Time Warner or a consortium.

   
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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2008, 08:04:29 AM »

well they are now getting buddy buddy with google. soemthing that Microsoft doesn't like, they actually filed an anti-trustt lawsuit over, and lost I might add lol, kinda funny for Microsoft wanting anti-trust filings eh
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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2008, 07:43:15 PM »

well they are now getting buddy buddy with google. soemthing that Microsoft doesn't like, they actually filed an anti-trustt lawsuit over, and lost I might add lol, kinda funny for Microsoft wanting anti-trust filings eh
Not so buddy the Google-Yahoo! deal is just a way for Yahoo to increase its ad revenue with Ad-words instead of using its own Yahoo! Publisher Network ads on the sponsored results. I don´t think that the Yahoo partnership will lead to any ruling after all its not a merger just a tech partnership. Google just has a 68 % market share world wide and quite big on ads to but still.

Yeah its funny 90+ % of the OS market, Office are somewhere between 80 and 90 %. Yahoo + Live would have the same effect on webmail and IM they would have serious anti-trust issues, so its kinda weird how Ms thinks that there merger with Yahoo would be possible after all they would be why to big on many markets. And if Ms would just by the Search bis Yahoo would lose most (80 %) of its income and that would not be in the shareholders interest. But good for me who did sell when it was high  grin Windows 7 has already a bit of a problem with the AT regulators  grin   

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« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2008, 07:46:02 PM »

interesting seeing how things develop and change isn't it
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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2008, 02:29:30 AM »

From Ms ANNUAL REPORT  grin


Our operations and financial results are subject to various risks and uncertainties, including those described below, that could adversely affect our business, financial condition, results of operations, cash flows, and the trading price of our common stock.

Challenges to our business model may reduce our revenues and operating margins.    Our business model has been based upon customers paying a fee to license software that we develop and distribute. Under this license-based software model, software developers bear the costs of converting original ideas into software products through investments in research and development, offsetting these costs with the revenue received from the distribution of their products. Certain “open source” software business models challenge our license-based software model. Open source commonly refers to software whose source code is subject to a license allowing it to be modified, combined with other software and redistributed, subject to restrictions set forth in the license. A number of commercial firms compete with us using an open source business model by modifying and then distributing open source software to end users at nominal cost and earning revenue on complementary services and products. These firms do not bear the full costs of research and development for the software. Some of these firms may build upon Microsoft ideas that we provide to them free or at low royalties in connection with our interoperability initiatives. To the extent open source software gains increasing market acceptance, our sales, revenue and operating margins may decline.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/789019/000119312508162768/d10k.htm#tx31450_3
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