Hold The Phone For a Minute...

[manicgames]

Ok, I have no problem with 110mb wanting to get a piece of the pie, that is understandable. They give us more than any host does. But I'm starting to wonder why all of our features that we were once promised, are going away. I have learned to cope with MySQL loss, as well as sendmail and fsockopen and all that, but we are now basically being told if we want to use our own domains, our sites traffic will be compromised.

You may think that 110mb really doesn't benefit from hosting our sites, well, it does. More then you guys think. Many of us link to 110mb, and give 110mb credit for hosting our sites. How is this not giving you guys any credit or giving you what you deserve? Nobody is forcing us to include links to the hosting, but we do because we love the hosting. I'm wondering when a banner will be forced onto our sites. I would have no problem with this, but I'm just saying, this service started out as a paradise for every web developer. Anything that a developer could ask for was given. And now, it's turned into a paid hosting. You want the better stuff? Simple, get posts (which must serve some use, not that hard), or pay some cash.

And now, our domains are pretty much being ousted. We understand that domains do not benefit you in any way, but why does it always have to be about benefiting you guys? We understand that you are very generous, but when is it going to be enough? We post links, we advertise, and more. Why must we not be able to use our domains without having our sites modified?  Many people want to use this hosting, but many are starting to complain because we are being restricted more then ever. That's not the 110mb I used to know. Sure, we can deal with not having all the goodies, we can use alternatives, but this is getting rather annoying with the disappearing features.

I am in no way trying to disrespect, because you guys (community, admins, everyone) are my friends. I've come to respect you all, and the service. When I first joined up, I use to enter all kinds of fake information on account sign up, because I didn't respect the service, now I respect it more than ever. I hope that we can have a civilized discussion about this, and the thread won't have to be locked, because there is nothing wrong with asking questions, and my main one: Why are we loosing features, or having restrictions put on, we advertise 110mb, so why can't we have what we deserve?

[Myles Grey]

Why are we loosing features, or having restrictions put on, we advertise 110mb, so why can't we have what we deserve?

110mb is becoming increasingly popular, they use to have to support less servers then they do now, as such they need more money.

As far as I'm aware that extra domain rule has been in place for a long time. And I think that once you buy $19 worth of upgrades it goes away. When you are saying that we link to 110mb, that is a minority, for everyone that does there is probably a thousand that don't.

A couple of one-time only fees isn't paid hosting, paid hosting is $10 a month.

Edit: 500 posts!!! Now I'm an authority.

[manicgames]

How is that not paid hosting? You're PAYING for it, that makes it paid hosting. I have no issues paying for some small priced upgrades, but I'm speaking for the whole community when I say that many of us can't afford them, or do not have paypal or bank cards available to use. And I can guarantee many parents don't want to be ordering upgrades using their cards.

[Myles Grey]

It's actually free hosting with paid upgrades. In five years you will still of only paid about $19, with paid hosting it could be $600.

Everyone should be able to afford $19, it's less than two pizzas. The only problem should be for under 18 year olds. Most of them should be able to get their parents to buy it, if they pay it back.

For the few who can't, they will just have to live without, it's not a perfect world. They can still get free hosting and free MySQL from external hosts. They can send emails from their own account, if they want newsletters. They still won't be able to send automatic emails, perform .htaccess functions or use CGI, but as I said it isn't a perfect world.

If some people missing out means that everyone gets free hosting and one-time only fee upgrades then that is a sacrifice that has to be made. They can always buy the upgrades when they turn 18 or get a friend who is 18 to use their credit card.

[manicgames]

All I am going to say is this: I remember a time when I told my friends that this had everything they need to get a perfect site. I still stick to my point, but I must include an asterick in my conversation.

[banancanard]

What do you really "need" to make a site?
Do you want it to be dynamic or static, one page or more, etc.

You are given all of the tools to make a good site for free without needing to pay for upgrades.
You are allowed to use most php commands and html.  Granted you cant use fsock or mail as well as a few other functions.  But then again there is no reason someone cant get 30 posts for fsock, at least thats my opinion. You are right in the fact that you dont get mysql free.  But their are alternatives. You can use flat file, or sqlite at no charge.  I think what it really boils down to is: Are you willing to learn somthing, teach yourself, ask for help when needed, and spend time changing code to make it work for you.  Most people google for some code they want, get errors, then get mad because someone doesnt help them right away.  They are to lazy to google around and read some material to figure out the error themselves.  The way I see it, 110mb encourages people to learn php and become resourceful. If what you want isnt out there, try making it yourself.  The 110mb community does a great job at helping people with codes that they create themselves or they found online. Not to mention the ever growing amount of scripts that users have made and shared on this site. 

[Coca-Cola]

ADMIN: Other hosting or free/paid domain services are not allowed to be discussed on forum. You may not know, but anyone using own domain who doesn't have $19+ worth of upgrades, gets very little assigned resources limit to their accounts. Hence account gets suspended when it brings over 200-500 unique visitors a day. Reason: Extra domains don't benefit 110 in any way. IE: We only want a win-win. Not a win-loose scenario with loose being on 110 side.

You would think this is fair because as you know: no such thing as totally free lunch. There's always a "what's in it for me" in anything that implies "free". Same thing for your mentioned free domain service.

Wtf.. 

So basicly anyonw with a good site has to pay $20/£10 to add an extra domain  This sucks.

[confuser]

I think there should be a new upgrade option, add your own domain, that way it gets rid of the need to buy $19 worth of upgrades

[Slittzle]

"why does it always have to be about what you get"

Well that's because this is a business, regardless of what anyone says a business is in it to make money. 110mb doesn't love you, they don't have an undying desire to please you - realistically it's about money. They're giving a free service and they expect something back, if they can't get ads on the page then they'll take a higher alexa rank. The domain thing is a tricky area, because I think it is motivated to get a higher alexa / comscore traffic ranking - which they use to attract advertisers so I believe therein lies your answer in why they do that.

The only problem I foresee with 110mb is that I think it's expanding too fast, obviously this isn't up to me - but I would prefer if they slowed down a bit and closed registration and maintained service for a while - to ensure that all other 14 or so boxes are working and let people get settled, close registration (trust me this will actually help in the long run as it will make 110mb more exclusive so people will wait to get in - they can put up a enter your email to get a newsletter when registration is open (allows them to build an op-in e-mail list which they can use for SpeedSuccess affiliate marketing)). Right now there are intermittent problems popping up because there are some pretty big growing pains happening right now.

[manicgames]

I agree with confuser. They should make it an upgradable option, because not many people I know of would want the resources and traffic limited.

[general vegitable]

How is that not paid hosting? You're PAYING for it, that makes it paid hosting. I have no issues paying for some small priced upgrades, but I'm speaking for the whole community when I say that many of us can't afford them, or do not have paypal or bank cards available to use. And I can guarantee many parents don't want to be ordering upgrades using their cards.

i tried to pay with my bank card and what do i get, "this is not a valid credit/debit card do not honour"

[46709394]

I got here from another post mentioning $19 issue for extra domain more than 500 unique hits a day.

I agree that if the traffic go that much, it worths paying. However, my little comment is that 110mb should state it clear on some noticeable area. I won't know this rule before reading that post.

[general vegitable]

i disagree, if i get 500 unique visits from google, who just look at the page then go, it is 500 pageloads aswell

[Warlock]

If you get 500 uniques per day, you can make a crapload of money with just CPM banners.

[inp o҉rtb]

i disagree, if i get 500 unique visits from google, who just look at the page then go, it is 500 pageloads aswell

500 unique visits from Google? I don't think Google would send 500 unique bots after your site in one day. But if you're so popular, you're most likely making enough $ anyway.

[general vegitable]

i meant people appearing at my site from google

[inp o҉rtb]

Well then, that would mean that your website is very well-indexed. Isn't that a good thing SEO-wise?

[general vegitable]

note that i said if

[inp o҉rtb]

note that i said if

note that i said would

[VolksBlade]

lol, i just got my domain, but i dont have to worry about my stuff, because i get so few visitors Unique OR(and) Returning it dont matter, because its less than 100 visitors a day (less than 25 really)

so im pretty sure im fine (ill buy upgrades when i get money, just to be safe tho)