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[Satori]

This one's for real.  

I'm an American, and I've been out of "the system" for over a decade.  I can't be officially employed, because it would generate income tax.  The tax would be automatically withheld from me, and go towards subsidizing lovely things like human torture, war atrocities, warrant-less domestic wiretapping, and general treason and inhumane practices.  So, I'm left to work under the table.

This has hit me pretty hard, and now I have a ton of cavities I can't pay to have filled.  If left unchecked, this will soon kill me slowly and painfully.  So as I'm looking around for humane options, I'm considering donating bone marrow for a fee.  There are thousands of people with life-threatening conditions who require bone marrow.  I have a life-threatening condition that can be easily solved with money.  It seems like a fair trade-off to me.  I haven't been able to pay to get typed, but if someone needs bone marrow we can go from there.

For those unfamiliar, bone marrow donation is usually done with a syringe into in the hip that leaves a hole that's so small, donors neither need stitches nor a hospital stay.  People generally drive in for their appointment, and drive themselves home.  7-14 days later, they're feeling fine.  Of course, they generally only apply Lanocaine to numb the skin, so it hurts like a mutha when they suck out the marrow.

So if anyone needs bone marrow, or knows someone who does, PM me.

[Edit:  I'm also looking into becoming a medical guinea pig for hire.  There's gotta be a way to solve this.  If people have any ideas that don't involve subsidizing atrocities with tax money -or with other black hat ventures - please share them.]

[s4motny]

Its very noble.

her u have some links
how this looks
_{Bone-marrow transplant}
http://www.swmedicalcenter.com/body.cfm?id=3042&action=articleDetail&AEProductID=Adam2004_13&AEArticleID=100112##

Become a Donor
http://www.bonemarrow.org/help/become_a_donor.html

[TDSii]

now this is something that u can't hear everyday!

[Slittzle]

This one's for real.   
For those unfamiliar, bone marrow donation is usually done with a syringe into in the hip that leaves a hole that's so small, donors neither need stitches nor a hospital stay.  People generally drive in for their appointment, and drive themselves home.  7-14 days later, they're feeling fine.  Of course, they generally only apply Lanocaine to numb the skin, so it hurts like a mutha when they suck out the marrow.

So if anyone needs bone marrow, or knows someone who does, PM me.

[Edit:  I'm also looking into becoming a medical guinea pig for hire.  There's gotta be a way to solve this.  If people have any ideas that don't involve subsidizing atrocities with tax money -or with other black hat ventures - please share them.]

People complain about HMO fees, but what really kills you is Dental fees. They're pretty damn expensive, and when you're uninsured and start getting a pain in your teeth - you know they'res little else you can do but shell out the cash for it.  Fortunately for myself, I have money to spend but for millions of people in North America (especially) it's insane. Those that have absolutely no cash end up going to the hospital where they're given antithetic to dull the pain, and in worse cases the tooth is prematurely pulled out regardless of whether it can be saved. Dentists charge a lot, so many don't even have that option. It's funny how in America, you can live and work without having health insurance - but you can't drive without car insurance.

Anyways, I wouldn't do the bone marrow thing because that's really desperate and the side effect is that you feel physically drained for a few days/weeks so I've heard. Also the kind of places that will hook you up with such people willing to pay for marrow (I imagine) wouldn't be the most legal and legitimate organizations. You could donate blood, and as I said it's not exactly the most practical way of making money.

They're are discount dentists, you could see one of them - again legitimacy is a problem. If you need money off-the-table, you could do the bux.to thing - I hear it pays, but of course it takes forever. If you want to skip the process, you can pay a bit for referrals which apparently helps increase the amount you earn. You could do e-jobs online, like web design, programming, etc and those pay by electronic ways like paypal which you don't necessarily have to report (note: it's illegal, as all under-the-table work is). You're posts are of quality, and they're are several places willingly to pay people to make high quality posts - you'll get paid like $5US for posting 10-15 messages in an upcoming forums (forums that owners want to populate or make it seem like theirs a community). Look up article writing as well.

Other things I can think of is bartering, depending on where you live - people barter things like services - it's often referred to as a co-op - you help someone with some service, in exchange they help you with something. You can find people of all skills and professions offering their services, you can probably find a dentist willing to help you for free in exchange for a service you can provide - for example wineries offer wine to web designers, who can get free wine samples in exchange for some design work.

Lastly there's the online plea - create a quick site saying you need money and why..write a sobbing heart story about it, and ask for donations via paypal or alertpay or whatever, post it everywhere you can - on digg, etc. Provide as much detail as possible like your phn # so people know you're real and genuine.

last option: prostitution? just kidding, or am I? I feel for you, having teeth/health problems and no insurance is a neglected social issue.

[Satori]

It's funny how in America, you can live and work without having health insurance - but you can't drive without car insurance.

Tell me about it.  Another side-effect of people not fixing the system.

Anyways, I wouldn't do the bone marrow thing because that's really desperate and the side effect is that you feel physically drained for a few days/weeks so I've heard. Also the kind of places that will hook you up with such people willing to pay for marrow (I imagine) wouldn't be the most legal and legitimate organizations. You could donate blood, and as I said it's not exactly the most practical way of making money.

Also, it hurts like hell, from what I've read.  They apply a topical to numb the skin, but the pain gets worse as they suck out the marrow.  I had a friend who tried to commit suicide from blood loss, and he told me how much blood loss hurts.  I can only imagine what this procedure must feel like.  I wouldn't pursue it if I weren't desperate - i.e., facing something that could kill me slowly and painfully itself.

They're are discount dentists, you could see one of them - again legitimacy is a problem.

Yup.  As is finding them.  Being out of "the system" I could probably cross the border into Mexico... but establishing citizenship to get back into the country would be a problem.

If you need money off-the-table, you could do the bux.to thing - I hear it pays, but of course it takes forever. If you want to skip the process, you can pay a bit for referrals which apparently helps increase the amount you earn.

I hadn't heard about bux.to.  Thanks for sharing it, I was looking for something like that.  The pay isn't much, but being into the occult, metaphysics and spirituality I've learned a trick that involves causing my body to release its own natural opiates - at least, that's probably the scientific explanation - and can basically chill out with the equivalent of a large dose of heroin going through my system naturally.  I could put on some music, trip out and meditate, and click ads.  For sixty cents an hour though, I could probably do better.  Particularly as fillings cost about $100 at the cheap clinic I go to, and I'd be looking at about $4.80 for an eight-hour day of this.  (A resource center was subsizing emergency extractions for a while, but not only did it get to be too much for them, I'm nearly out of molars and my front teeth are starting to go, too.)

You could do e-jobs online, like web design, programming, etc and those pay by electronic ways like paypal which you don't necessarily have to report (note: it's illegal, as all under-the-table work is).

This is boffo stuff.  I just Googled for sites that offer paid coding jobs, and something like 200,000 showed up.  Time for me to cram some free online coding at w3schools.com, the online programming tutorial equivalent of 110mb, Gawd love both of 'em.

I could care less about what's illegal.  I've got ten years of law research under my belt, and what most attorneys won't tell you is that "illegal" doesn't actually count for anything.  These pages can probably explain it better, and sites like these can explain the overall situation there.  I've even created my own blog about it years back.

You're posts are of quality, and they're are several places willingly to pay people to make high quality posts - you'll get paid like $5US for posting 10-15 messages in an upcoming forums (forums that owners want to populate or make it seem like theirs a community). Look up article writing as well.

Oh, Slittzle.  Keep making that awesome mouth music!  Do you know what they're usually called?  Usually there's a catchphrase that Google will like.

Other things I can think of is bartering, depending on where you live - people barter things like services - it's often referred to as a co-op - you help someone with some service, in exchange they help you with something. You can find people of all skills and professions offering their services, you can probably find a dentist willing to help you for free in exchange for a service you can provide - for example wineries offer wine to web designers, who can get free wine samples in exchange for some design work.

That's another excellent idea.  I need to call my dental clinic and see if they need website design.  I'm calling a friend tomorrow to ask her to pass the hat at her church.

Lastly there's the online plea - create a quick site saying you need money and why..write a sobbing heart story about it, and ask for donations via paypal or alertpay or whatever, post it everywhere you can - on digg, etc. Provide as much detail as possible like your phn # so people know you're real and genuine.

Another good idea, but I'd already written it off as dark-grey hat.  If I'm trying to avoid passing my problems onto others (as most Americans do by taking the path of least resistance and paying their taxes, avoiding political activism, and so on), the last thing I want to do is show up on people's screens looking for a massive handout.  I guess I feel like a church that does a lot of outreach is different, because people there are presumably seeking an opportunity to do good where it's needed.  Everywhere else asking for money is generally just being a downer, trying to get something - a lot, actually - from people without giving anything back in return.  Which is a large part of the problem with the world, and I don't want to be a part of that.

last option: prostitution? just kidding, or am I? I feel for you, having teeth/health problems and no insurance is a neglected social issue.

Dude (I'm assuming you're a "dude"), see above regarding illegality.

I personally see no problem with prostitution, under the right circumstances and for the right reasons.  In fact I think it should be paid social work.  Can you imagine where we'd be as a society if our sexual desires were accepted as normal, healthy and valid, and we didn't build up the unhealthy notion that they're dirty, wrong, and to be kept in the dark?  Everything only festers in the dark.

Also, it's socially-accepted and legal to use the illusion of sex - unfulfilled, of course - to sell a product or service.  But to sell the fulfillment of that lure - sex itself - is illegal.  The message there?  "Your pleasure is only properly used to satisfy someone else's agenda.  Have a nice day, Citizen!"  And I think that's wrong.

I'd have set up a web-cam already, but my partner forbids it.

Dude (again, assuming), Slittzle.  Thanks for taking the time to post back a bunch of great information.  Let me know if there's something I can do for you, like link-clicking, or backlinking when I get more website stuff done.

[Satori]

Wow, Slittzle, your paid posting and article-writing is really taking off for me.  I'm using HubPages, since it yields 60% of the AdSense impressions instead of 50% like most of 'em do.  I've been on for like four days, have over thirty articles, and my AdSense impressions are shooting up... about to hit two hundred already, and that's only my 70%.  No actual clicks yet, but we'll see.  You can check out my profile there if you'd like, if nothing else to see what I look like.  And I'm also taking the opportunity to plug 110mb whenever I can, particularly in my tutorials for newbies on throwing a website together and getting it hosted.  -gryn-  Giving back a little here, I'd like to state for the record that writing articles on the internet about what you know, and plugging yourself as a consultant in those areas (for paid consultation by phone, internet chat, or whatever) is an opportunity to earn residual income down the road when someone reads the article and requests your consulting services directly to your email Inbox.  With a lot of articles it builds up, and it's residual income that pays better than using AdSense to sell someone else's services to people.

Such great ideas Slittzle.  I don't know if it'll save my teeth in time, but between that and coding-for-profit learning PHP I should be able to freelance with enough to live on, in time.  I'm having a friend take up a collection at their church for the dental money.  And I'm finding a PHP coder who'll work on a commission basis to design Drupal modules that will let me implement some ideas that can change the world hugely.  Thanks again.

- Satori just gave Slittzle 23 Karma Points! -

[Slittzle]

glad it's working for you, happy to help. But about the programming freelancing thing I wouldn't recommend it as a way to make money because that market is over saturated and it's really competitive  with lots of underbidding, the major problem right now is that the underbidding is so bad that the work being created is worth much more then what the programmers are paid. Continue article writing since you're having success with it, and DO NOT click on your ads - it may seem like you'll get away with a few clicks, but don't risk it. Also you may want to try bux to (disclosure: referral link). You won't make a lot with it, but you can earn a few cents each day, and once you reach 10.00 you can get paid via alertpay/paypal/mastercard.

[Satori]

glad it's working for you, happy to help. But about the programming freelancing thing I wouldn't recommend it as a way to make money because that market is over saturated and it's really competitive  with lots of underbidding, the major problem right now is that the underbidding is so bad that the work being created is worth much more then what the programmers are paid. Continue article writing since you're having success with it, and DO NOT click on your ads - it may seem like you'll get away with a few clicks, but don't risk it. Also you may want to try bux to (disclosure: referral link). You won't make a lot with it, but you can earn a few cents each day, and once you reach 10.00 you can get paid via alertpay/paypal/mastercard.

Thanks again, Slittzle.

I wouldn't click on my own links - especially with AdSense - but I appreciate the heads-up.

That's interesting, about coding underbidding.  I'm kind of inclined to do that anyway.  Consider: it may not pay what it's worth, but most people underbidding are able to earn money through traditional means.  I'm not.  In a more dire situation than them, I can be willing to underbid.  Yes?  Or is there something I'm missing?

It looks good, but in order to make it work I'll need to start a couple of world-changing sites (that will be as obvious as eBay or craigslist in retrospect) by getting PHP coders to write me a couple of new Drupal modules on commission.  It should be interesting.

Thanks again, Slittzle.

[Slittzle]

Foreigners can underbid you because a dollar stretches further in their currency, so work that is worth $5 - you could bid as low as $1 but they could bid $0.50 cents because that still stretches further in their currency. Of course it's not as extreme as that, but it's quite bad - more like foreigners able to bid $20 orless for work that's well worth $1000s or $100s.

[Satori]

Foreigners can underbid you because a dollar stretches further in their currency, so work that is worth $5 - you could bid as low as $1 but they could bid $0.50 cents because that still stretches further in their currency. Of course it's not as extreme as that, but it's quite bad - more like foreigners able to bid $20 orless for work that's well worth $1000s or $100s.

That's good to know.  I'll probably stick with using modified Google searches to check for coding jobs in the States that were intended to be localized.  Like on Craigslist.  - gryn -

"Hi I'm in one of the corn states can you build me a website for my small business please?"

- chuckle -

...and then 110mb gets some new hosting accounts to its name as well.

[Slittzle]

you could sell your services to new ma and pop stores that are looking to create a site, then you could create a simple site and they'll be happy and probably willing to pay you more for it then it's worth (not saying you cheat them, but they'll most likely not be so demanding in what they want - eg: full cms system with seo).

If you want to get your teeth saved, it's going to have to be about volume.

[RBCFAQS]

http://surveyspot.com

I know its going to sound dumb, but you can make a good chunk of change doing surveys with these guys... When I was actively doing it, I could make about $70 a week from it. They mail you a check when you request it. Anything over $5 and you can ask for your money.

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

http://surveyspot.com

I know its going to sound dumb, but you can make a good chunk of change doing surveys with these guys... When I was actively doing it, I could make about $70 a week from it. They mail you a check when you request it. Anything over $5 and you can ask for your money.

cool... i think i might join em but... they kinda sound iffy 

[RBCFAQS]

Iffy??? How so? I swear by em. Since I have no job and am out of school, thats my income for most things... >.<

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

this:

Q: How will I know if I've won a Sweepstakes?

A: If you win a prize in our Instant Win game, you will receive details immediately to redeem your prize. If you win one of our sweepstakes, you will be notified by email and provided with all the details to redeem your prize. Please make sure your mailbox is not full or beyond its storage capacity so that you are able to receive your messages as this is the only way we contact winners.

why not other means... but if you rely on them for income how much have you made max in 1 month? as i need a new source of income on the side... something like this

[RBCFAQS]

Not sure, as I dont' do them steadily...

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

o ok well i will look into them further latter.

[HowDoIChangeBackgroundCol]

That was random.

[Satori]

That was random.

Yeah, we try.   

[VolksBlade]

hey satori, you know even if you dont save your teeth in time, when you get enough money you could always go and get fake teeth or something, :p i hope you actually can save your teeth in time though

EDIT

just had a idea, why not advertise ad clicking? like your on a forum and someones saying how they wished they could get more adsense clicks, so you say something like "i will click on your adsense links and sign up under another email adress if you split the money you get from each click/sign-up" and then go and make a fake email adress like fake@whatever.com and wham if they accept you go to their site and spend an hour massivly clicking and signing up with that email adress then refreshing his web-page or going to another one of his pages and doing it all over again, 1 hour a day and every click/signup you will get half of each and every cent that person makes..

now im not as good as you at phrasing and wording my stuff but if you cant really read that let me know and ill re-word/re-phrase it