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Question: Which of the Big Three Motor Companies will be the first to go belly up?
Ford - 1 (5.9%)
GM - 8 (47.1%)
Chrysler - 8 (47.1%)
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« on: December 04, 2008, 12:18:58 PM »

I hope that Ford is the last to fall since I recently bought a whole bunch of Ford stocks! So I say death to Chrysler!  shocked
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 12:21:15 PM »

Ford is still in good condition, I hope Ford doesn't, my dad works for Ford.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 12:25:51 PM »

it'll be vehicles that deal mostly in high end that'd go belly up first which I guess means chev then chrysler and then ford, besides ford owns jaguar and several other companies so... and plus they have a huge name in Australia and other countries so.... ford probably in decent shape for now
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 12:26:19 PM »

Yeah! After all, it was Ford who invented the automobile in the first place!
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 12:47:09 PM »

Eh Ford... they are low quality IMO; always had a bad experience with em. We had a ford van die after 1-2 years, my dad's ford SUV doesn't have air/heat working (and doesn't want to pay  money to fix it; not worth it), and it's on its 3rd transmission which is obviously beginning to fail, and we borrowed somebody's ford van to go on vacation and that thing needed $400+ in repairs in the middle of it cause it's exhaust system went nutso. So yeh. Haven't had a great experience with it.... So I vote for Ford to fall  Duh
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 07:27:13 PM »

Eh Ford... they are low quality IMO; always had a bad experience with em. We had a ford van die after 1-2 years, my dad's ford SUV doesn't have air/heat working (and doesn't want to pay  money to fix it; not worth it), and it's on its 3rd transmission which is obviously beginning to fail, and we borrowed somebody's ford van to go on vacation and that thing needed $400+ in repairs in the middle of it cause it's exhaust system went nutso. So yeh. Haven't had a great experience with it.... So I vote for Ford to fall  Duh

People seem to think quality can save a company. Not really. Look at Dell, crap computers, but yet they manage to sell millions. It's all a mind set that people think something is the best, someone may think Ford is the best. I personally think all American cars suck, hence we drive Toyota's. Ford owns Mercury, Volvo, Lincoln, Jaguar,  Land Rover, and Aston Martin. They plan to give up Volvo to get some money coming in.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 11:14:02 PM »

it'll be vehicles that deal mostly in high end that'd go belly up first which I guess means chev then chrysler and then ford, besides ford owns jaguar and several other companies so... and plus they have a huge name in Australia and other countries so.... ford probably in decent shape for now
Ford has sold Jaguar and Land rover to Tata, and Aston Martin to the management, Ford only has Volvo left and they will have to sell it as well, but it will be hard to sell as its so integrated in to Ford, and they will have to sell it for much less then in 1999 when they bought it from Volvo Group. But of the the 3 Ford are the best of the 3 they still have good sales overseas and there US trucks seems to sell. I hope that Volvo buys Volvo cars back from Ford and maybe SAAB as well. I bought a lot of Volvo Group stocks under this year so it would be good for me and it would be good for the Volvo brand as well  cheesy. but 6 billion is way to much  cheesy (Ford = Volvo, Mercury, Lincoln, Ford) and ford are about to sell there EU models in USA as well and that might be a good idea they use less fuel and are safer, and Fiesta and Focus might be what the consumer wants a hatchback.   

Chrysler has the biggest need for cash before new year they will need 9 BILLION US to stay in the game, and
there cars might be hard to sell, and only Jeep is in some what good shape and it could find an owner in its last owner  rolleyes 
GM, GM need 7 billion, but they have much to sell of, I think they should clean out some US brands and stay with Chevy, Cadillac, Opel (Saturn, Vauxhall same as opel) and Saab and kill of the rest  cheesy and buy Chrysler     

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But it is not responsible to bail them out they have been miss managed for so long Chapter 11 is the best option.

I hope that Ford is the last to fall since I recently bought a whole bunch of Ford stocks! So I say death to Chrysler!  shocked
I would not wanna have stocks in any of those, if they get help from the gov there debt will have senior status over the rest of the debt and stockholders are already out of the game its worthless Duh

Total Assets 242,065.00
Total Liabilities    244,054.00    (More debt then assets)
Total Equity    -1,989.00    (=stock worthless but it could be worse look at GM  cheesy)   

Yeah! After all, it was Ford who invented the automobile in the first place!
Karl Benz = Daimler AG, it can't be fun to be stuck with 19.9% of Chrysler  cheesy

Eh Ford... they are low quality IMO; always had a bad experience with em. We had a ford van die after 1-2 years, my dad's ford SUV doesn't have air/heat working (and doesn't want to pay  money to fix it; not worth it), and it's on its 3rd transmission which is obviously beginning to fail, and we borrowed somebody's ford van to go on vacation and that thing needed $400+ in repairs in the middle of it cause it's exhaust system went nutso. So yeh. Haven't had a great experience with it.... So I vote for Ford to fall  Duh

People seem to think quality can save a company. Not really. Look at Dell, crap computers, but yet they manage to sell millions. It's all a mind set that people think something is the best, someone may think Ford is the best. I personally think all American cars suck, hence we drive Toyota's. Ford owns Mercury, Volvo, Lincoln, Jaguar,  Land Rover, and Aston Martin. They plan to give up Volvo to get some money coming in.
You should check some of your facts, but its true that US cars suck, Toyota rules  cheesy       
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 03:14:57 AM »

did i not  make a similar title a while bad Cheesy Any case Ford will be the last to fail Duh because i still see their truck sales beating every one else (well the B3 any how) they still have decent contracts with governments in USA and Canada for their crown vic's (last i checked) what do the others have? well Chrysler did have their cars in the cop line for what 2 years Cheesy but what i find with Chrysler and Chev is about 80% of their cars trucks vans (anything that is not initially meant for commercial use Duh) are defective. How? well for starters allot of the cars trucks i see when people use their turning signals (seriously this is like once in a blue moon here) i see allot of head lights go out shocked and usually the one on the side the signal is on too...

Chev and Chrysler both have flaming vehicles while ford has had the rare case... chances are if you own a chev or Chrysler from a specific year your fire insurance would be extremely high even with the recommended free repair Cheesy Also look here:

http://www.chevrolet.com/lineup/
i just cant stop laughing at this Cheesy their trucks have better gas consumption then their cheapest car Cheesy and no wonder i see more vets on the road their the second most fuel efficient car they have Cheesy plus aside the idiotics Duh they have far more SUVs and Trucks then any one else...

http://www.chrysler.com/en/lineup/index.html?showslider=true
they are a little better but not much Duh

hmmm actually ford in the USA has more trucks/SUVs then Chevy but hell they sell Duh but yea ford will last the longest Duh

Eh Ford... they are low quality IMO; always had a bad experience with em. We had a ford van die after 1-2 years, my dad's ford SUV doesn't have air/heat working (and doesn't want to pay  money to fix it; not worth it), and it's on its 3rd transmission which is obviously beginning to fail, and we borrowed somebody's ford van to go on vacation and that thing needed $400+ in repairs in the middle of it cause it's exhaust system went nutso. So yeh. Haven't had a great experience with it.... So I vote for Ford to fall  Duh

hmmm a few simple rules to follow with ford No SUVs no Crossovers and no FWD (front) pure and simple... SUVs like the explorer are fine as they are based off of the trucks. but any others i would not touch but thats me rolleyes

ummm off topic but are hybrids not supposed to go threw less gas then go threw more rolleyes the escape Hybrid goes thre up to 36 MPG according to Fords site while the regular one goes up to 28 Cheesy anything to make it look like your doing something for the eco i guess undecided
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2008, 03:46:13 AM »

ummm off topic but are hybrids not supposed to go threw less gas then go threw more rolleyes the escape Hybrid goes thre up to 36 MPG according to Fords site while the regular one goes up to 28 Cheesy anything to make it look like your doing something for the eco i guess undecided

28 Miles per gallon is about 8.4 liters per 100km and 36 mpg is about 6.5 liters per 100km so the hybrid is better on fuel.

The US uses miles per gallon as a measure of fuel efficiency and in that system higher is better.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2008, 04:20:39 AM »

Yeah! After all, it was Ford who invented the automobile in the first place!
wrong actually, the first automobile was the Benz patent motorwagen (pronounced mowter-vargen), who would now be Mercedes Benz
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2008, 04:27:04 AM »

ummm off topic but are hybrids not supposed to go threw less gas then go threw more rolleyes the escape Hybrid goes thre up to 36 MPG according to Fords site while the regular one goes up to 28 Cheesy anything to make it look like your doing something for the eco i guess undecided

28 Miles per gallon is about 8.4 liters per 100km and 36 mpg is about 6.5 liters per 100km so the hybrid is better on fuel.

The US uses miles per gallon as a measure of fuel efficiency and in that system higher is better.
lol opps i forgot higher the better Duh my bad rolleyes i just keep forgetting that Cheesy IDK why but i just do -.- but still i would not buy a hybrid the amount of gas saved would prob not go past the amount you paid for them yet... wait a few years then maybe undecided
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 04:27:55 AM »

so in the long run it would be cheaper
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2008, 05:37:08 AM »

lol opps i forgot higher the better Duh my bad rolleyes i just keep forgetting that Cheesy IDK why but i just do -.- but still i would not buy a hybrid the amount of gas saved would prob not go past the amount you paid for them yet... wait a few years then maybe undecided

It depends on how you drive if a hybrid is a worth while purchase.  If you spend the majority of your time driving at a constant speed then you will see benefits from the hybrid, however, if you spend most of your time starting and stopping then you will see less benefits (although still better then straight gas/diesel).
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2008, 06:16:07 AM »

I have experience here. I have repossessed cars. Cheesy
Chevy:

GMC
Chevy
Geo
Volvo
MACK

Ford:
Ford
Freightliner (Yes, the semi-trucks)
(They also make motor homes)

Chrysler:
Chrysler
Jeep
Eagle
Dodge
Plymouth


Ford and Chevy are the strongest industrially because of their transport vehicles (Volvo, Freightliner, MACK). Chrysler is, imo, the strongest looking at normal usages because of the Dodge line of cars/trucks as well as the Jeep line of SUV's. So... we'll just have to see.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2008, 06:32:36 AM »

It's GM not Chevrolet.... may want to change that seeing as it isn't a Big 3 company...

How many of you actually live in Michigan anyways?
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2008, 06:36:57 AM »

I'm aware of that its General Motors (GM) not just Chevy. I just posted as Chevy for the sake of staying on topic. Duh
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2008, 06:39:31 AM »

Yeah, I know but Chevrolet is within GM. GM should be on that poll, Americans should know who the Big 3 are...

Ford thought the Ford Edge would sell well and help out, but it didn't I see a lot of them out on car dealerships lots.
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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2008, 06:45:01 AM »

True... I still think it's kinda funny that GM has a line called GMC (General Motors Corporation) under the main GM (General Motors) header.
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2008, 10:36:13 PM »

Ford and Chevy are the strongest industrially because of their transport vehicles (Volvo, Freightliner, MACK). Chrysler is, imo, the strongest looking at normal usages because of the Dodge line of cars/trucks as well as the Jeep line of SUV's. So... we'll just have to see.
Ford has nothing to do with the transport vehicles of Volvo, Freightliner, MACK they are owned by other companies. Ford only own the Volvo Car Corporation and they make consumer cars since 1999 when Volvo group sold it to them for 5 billion USD.   

Volvo Group AB owns:
    * Volvo Trucks
    * Mack
    * Renault Trucks
    * Nissan Diesel Motor Co
    * Volvo Buses
    * Volvo Construction Equipment
    * Volvo Penta
    * Volvo Aero
    * Volvo Financial Services
They are Sweden's biggest or second biggest company now its between them and H&M who fight for the top position  cheesy and they are also fight about the top spot with Daimler of who is the biggest truck company  cheesy they both have around 30 % of the market  rolleyes 
http://www.nasdaqomxnordic.com/aktier/shareinformation?Instrument=SSE366

Daimler AG owns
Commercial vehicles

    * Freightliner
    * Mercedes-Benz (truck group)
    * Mitsubishi Fuso
    * Thomas Built Buses
    * Sterling Trucks
    * Western Star
And
Mercedes-Benz Cars

    * Maybach
    * Mercedes-Benz
    * smart
    * Mercedes-AMG
+ 19.9% of Chrysler

they have far more SUVs and Trucks then any one else...
Actually Nissan has the largest line up of SUV's and light trucks  cheesy
Yeah! After all, it was Ford who invented the automobile in the first place!
wrong actually, the first automobile was the Benz patent motorwagen (pronounced mowter-vargen), who would now be Mercedes Benz
I did post that already  rolleyes

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2008, 03:58:21 AM »

Actually Nissan has the largest line up of SUV's and light trucks  cheesy
lol well i never really looked at Nissan Duh so i would not know rolleyes

any case i still think ford will last longer then the others it is mostly due to the following sales:
F series (including commercial)
Mustang
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Crow Vic (for cops Duh and taxis)

hmmm i think they just changed the name and a different body for the Focus in 2011
http://www.fordvehicles.com/2011fiesta/
looks like that fart thing they called the focus Cheesy
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