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[Elight]

Have you heard about the terror attacks now occuring in India? More than one-hunderd people have been murdered.

If not, now is the time: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7752003.stm

It's madness, what happened to this world?!
Appparently those are from radical Muslem organization, demanding the release of hundreds of Terrorist prisoners from India jails.

I really hope this will solve fast, may there be no more casualties (except those of the terrorists)...

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

old news.... but the reason why all this got bad was thanks to the USA gov... mostly Bush and his father. But if we give in then more and more people will start holding ransoms expecting to be paid... we must hold back and show them that we are strong regardless how many get hurt/killed...

NO i am not cold blooded but if we give in to these ass holes they will start walking over us -.-

[Elight]

we must hold back and show them that we are strong regardless how many get hurt/killed...
NO i am not cold blooded but if we give in to these ass holes they will start walking over us -.-

You are right. But think how horrible it is to know innocent people are paying for your governemnt's mistakes, or because of the religion, or just because how FU*$ED up this world is.

Why men hunts war, killing and hatred? I started to think lately that global-warming, plus the hole in the Ozon layer will do this planet only good, if they eradicate humankind.

[Slittzle]

old news.... but the reason why all this got bad was thanks to the USA gov... mostly Bush and his father. But if we give in then more and more people will start holding ransoms expecting to be paid... we must hold back and show them that we are strong regardless how many get hurt/killed...

normally that would be true, but India's problems with terorrism has little to do with America, and more to do with America's mentor, Britain. They split up the asian subcontinent into a two parts, what we now know as India and Pakistan. The muslims fled to Pakistan, and the Hindus and Sikhs stayed in India. Every now and then they have border clashes with fights spilling over when extremists from all sides (that's Hinduism, Islam and Christianity). Britain had this thing about leaving a country in worse condition then when you arrived, so there strategy as it so famously is called now "divide  & conquer". A lot of the fighting in most of Asia and Africa is a result of this, it's the reason why a lot of religions that were pretty much founded within very close borders of each other are fighting now. I mean almost all the major religions existent right now were founded in Asia, a great deal of them in South Asia. So terrorism and acts of violence are quite uncommon - the western media wants to make this out to be there 9/11 equivalent - but in actuality people from the region are quite used to it (maybe not to the level of planning that this seemed to have, but to attacks in general). Our privilege is that we rarely, if ever, have/had to deal with terrorism, so much so that just 1 terrorist attack is enough for us to get all paranoid and crazy about giving up our rights for some stupid sense of security that doesn't exist to begin with.

[qserver]

religions conflict..

Hmm, maybe we need some kind of international agency (under UN) like United-Religion that promotes international religion (inter-religion) cooperation and communication to prevent religions conflict..

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

religions conflict..

Hmm, maybe we need some kind of international agency (under UN) like United-Religion that promotes international religion (inter-religion) cooperation and communication to prevent religions conflict..

That would work but only one problem people from various cultures hate others... mostly due to the past and for what your saying to do will be nearly impossible as their will always be that on person who can get a hold of hundreds if not thousands under that religion who will agree that they should not be trusted -.- in some cases i would have to agree but most of the time they have realized that it was wrong etc... Also clans like KKK will not allow such things... but they are small but will pose a huge problem as they may goto a group and make this into a dream again

long of the short is even though a great idea it will be very very hard to do even with all the money in the world but good luck

[ariarinen]

old news.... but the reason why all this got bad was thanks to the USA gov... mostly Bush and his father. But if we give in then more and more people will start holding ransoms expecting to be paid... we must hold back and show them that we are strong regardless how many get hurt/killed...

normally that would be true, but India's problems with terorrism has little to do with America, and more to do with America's mentor, Britain. They split up the asian subcontinent into a two parts, what we now know as India and Pakistan. The muslims fled to Pakistan, and the Hindus and Sikhs stayed in India. Every now and then they have border clashes with fights spilling over when extremists from all sides (that's Hinduism, Islam and Christianity). Britain had this thing about leaving a country in worse condition then when you arrived, so there strategy as it so famously is called now "divide  & conquer". A lot of the fighting in most of Asia and Africa is a result of this, it's the reason why a lot of religions that were pretty much founded within very close borders of each other are fighting now. I mean almost all the major religions existent right now were founded in Asia, a great deal of them in South Asia. So terrorism and acts of violence are quite uncommon - the western media wants to make this out to be there 9/11 equivalent - but in actuality people from the region are quite used to it (maybe not to the level of planning that this seemed to have, but to attacks in general). Our privilege is that we rarely, if ever, have/had to deal with terrorism, so much so that just 1 terrorist attack is enough for us to get all paranoid and crazy about giving up our rights for some stupid sense of security that doesn't exist to begin with.

Yes UK did create the problem with India but they also made a solution how to win  cow/pig blood covered bullets  so India just have to import tons of pigs and put then on the streets and trains and problem solved   . They would need to talk about Kashmir witch are a trouble zone, Pakistan has there own internal problems right now.

The first years of British rule went very well until the cross came out, but uk did leave India in quite good shape they built industries and steal mils that still today are running   

[Keith]

religion, the root of all evil.

it's sad how other people kill people because someone else told them so. (e.g suicde bombers and all of those idiots), they are manipulated so badly that they would take they own life (and innocent people) just because someone fu[ked up person told them their god would want them to do it.
a good movie on terrorism (to me) is The Kingdom. it seems it's a little more geared to the terrorist point of view more than the Americans point of view. i mean it's still a blockbuster movie, not like a history channel special or something.

[Slittzle]

@ariarinen
that wouldn't work, it's not eating of pork not no seeing of pig's blood. Also India's population is mostly Hindus, but there are considerable numbers of Sikhs, Christians, Jains, Buddhists, and so forth. Also a lot of Hindu's eat meat, even though they're supposed to be vegetarian by ideals, and some eat beef, and some use leather products and stuff. It's a common misconception, they still allow leather and such - in the same way that Jews and Muslims can use pig leather, it's mostly things like food, drink, and medicinal drugs/vitamins that they forbid from containing animal parts.


Yea right, Britain tore apart at all the commonwealth countries. They built infrastructure, which was good I agree, but they decimated the resources and wildlife by hunting and over-extracting resources so they could send it back to Britain. Plus they stole and plundered a lot of gold and diamonds which they have yet to give back. The Kohinoor diamond was basically the largest diamond in the world for a good portion of time and the British stole it and filed it down and put it in the queens crown. Anyways Britain did more damage IMO then they helped, but I mean if your British it's not something to be really defensive about - because it wasn't in your time and well it's one of the less celebrated facts about Britain's imperialist history.

[sandy]

Indeed, religion might just be the source for all evil in this world. Then again, humans would always find an excuse to fight and kill for.

I've read several articles and books that has a massage that Islam was world's greatest mistake. I do not mean to be racist or something, but in general, religion, and killing in the name of your "god" is plain stupid. This is why we humans won't survive for long (As in long planet years...). There's no cooperation even within our species, very foolish for so-called ingtelligent beings.

I'm agnostik, and it's for the best. I hate people for what they do, not for their belief.

[Keith]

nah, i got to disagree, islam is a fine religion, it's that 1 person/group manipulated the religion for other people and started the extremist in that religion. they are responsible for the deaths, not the religion itself. In Catholic religion, priest and poop manipulated the bible since other could not read latin so that the catholic church can make more money from the people.

religion itself is good, the people/leaders are usually bad. 

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

Indeed, religion might just be the source for all evil in this world. Then again, humans would always find an excuse to fight and kill for.

So what should we do? kill all people

religion itself is good, the people/leaders are usually bad. 

i would have to disagree religion is one of the worst things people every thought of... you know why? no matter were you go who your are how you look like if your in a religion which they hate you may find your self dead... Religion is just another sad way people now and days use to discriminate against people me i know Jewish Muslim Buddhist Christians and many many more... they are all cool im Christian but i dont goto church or what not nor do i really believe in any god i believe in evolution and if god does exist then he created every thing animals people dinosaurs etc... the whole big bang stuff... But no one will know till were dead so till then i will stand beside my point that religion is just another way to discriminate against and judge people...

I know 2 people who are friends and guess what they are Egyptian and Jewish and many many many years ago Egyptians enslaved Jewish people yet these two are friends

But many people still use religion as a barrier, if i go out with a person who is anything but from the religion of Christianity and (my mom thinks this >) "white" (yes i know "stupid", worst part she is racist yet denies it and calls it something else...) it will never work out and she/they (mostly she) will not allow it or disown me

[qserver]

Well, as far as we know if it's about religion there are 2 point of view:  Moderat and Strict..
It quite common for any religion i think..

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i changed the wording to avoid misdirection.

[inp o҉rtb]

I'd like to remind you that religion is a sensitive topic around here. Please tread carefully when writing about specific religions, or I might have to put on my moderating goggles and get out my moderating hammer...

[Primefalcon]

old news.... but the reason why all this got bad was thanks to the USA gov... mostly Bush and his father. But if we give in then more and more people will start holding ransoms expecting to be paid... we must hold back and show them that we are strong regardless how many get hurt/killed...

NO i am not cold blooded but if we give in to these ass holes they will start walking over us -.-

you'd be cold blooded to give in I hate to say.... by giving in you'd be causing more people tog et hurt as alll the more groups rush in yelling hey it worked let's all do it

[The Melancholy Of 110mb.com]

I'd like to remind you that religion is a sensitive topic around here. Please tread carefully when writing about specific religious, or I might have to put on my moderating goggles and get out my moderating hammer...

lol mine was not intended for any direct religion but if it sounded so then im sorry but how you stated your self was kinda funny

you'd be cold blooded to give in I hate to say.... by giving in you'd be causing more people tog et hurt as alll the more groups rush in yelling hey it worked let's all do it

True but i still believe if i did not state that some one maybe not on this forum but reading it would say i am cold blooded... although i prob could easily turn cold blooded but that is different but yea if ny one gives in to any thing illegal then other will walk in and expect and will start walking over them which is not good

[Slittzle]

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has a massage that Islam was world's greatest mistake. I do not mean to be racist or something, but in general, religion, and killing in the name of your "god" is plain stupid

It's not racist, it's just ignorant and arrogant of the authors to say that. In my experience, it's not Islam but all the Abrahamic religions that are messed up. They all ask to kill in the name of the lord, whether you call it the crusades or jihad, they all preach prejudice and hatred, and they all hold themselves superior to other religions. But even with all that nonsense, they have a relatively good message behind it that very often gets clouded in bs doctrines and fights over who's better then who, and which religion is in the right, and who's a threat to who. They all think the other is out to get them, and they all preach violence equally.

As humans we are taught and raised to have an ego about our species, we believe ourselves to be a lot more intelligent then we are. And we find ways to demean and degrade all other species as below us, judging them on a biased scale that uses our species accomplishments as a measure of intelligence and superiority. If you really ignore what you've been taught and look at it objectively you will realize that the greatest force on this planet isn't human (and no I'm not talking about God or aliens).

[pǝʇɹǝʌuı]

I live in Mumbai, but the action is taking place far from where I live, in downtown Mumbai actually...

Apparently the attacks were not just for religion ..
They (the terrorists) are reported to have asked specifically for American and British passport holding guests at the hotels, as hostages..

Another building, an Israeli family was killed..

Looks more politically motivated than religious.

The anti-terrorist operations seem to be getting over...
I've been watching the news all day and it was interesting and cool to see the commandos being air-dropped one floor above the terrorists at one place (where the Israelis were killed).. The commandos stormed in with Uzis, RPG launchers, and killed all the remaining terrorists. This was about 3-4 hrs ago.

One 20 storey hotel had had been cleared in the morning by the same commandos but  another hotel, The Taj, is still infested with terrorists,though almost all hostages have been rescued from there..

The terrorists however, made no real(serious) demands and they were here just to kill and get killed.
They managed to catch and cuff one terrorist and I hope he's shot before being produced in court.

Around 150 civilans have been killed so far. I still can't believe that this kind of crap really happened in my city...

 It's 48 hrs since the sh!t began and still isn't over. As a result I haven't had to go to school for 2 days.. (yesterday and today).. and tomorrow is a Saturday!

[Elight]

What I meant is that religion might just be the cause for all of this.

Think about it, you say political, they asked for American and British and Israeli, which means Christians and Jewish. But it's a war against America, Britain, and especially Israel. In general, it's a war against the west that originating in the war against all other religions.

I am no expert or anything, but there's a phrase in the Koran, the bible of the Muslems that supports in fighting other religions. But nowadays it's just political, and the leaders of terror organizations just take advantage of the religion so the simple people will sacrifice themselves for their "cause". Actually, in the Koran life is a sacred value, and it's especially against suiciding.

I guess people will just find any reason to fight the other...

[qserver]

pǝʇɹǝʌuı,

we were very sorry to hear about what happened in your city..
our deepest sympathy on mumbai people loss..